| The
RedOctane Ignition Pad
(a review by GPF Lith)
Last update: 3/27/01
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RedOctane. If you play DDR, you've probably heard of them. It seems like every DDR-related website has a link to their
store.
They sponsor a lot of tournaments. But the real question is: Are their pads any
good? Today's focus will attempt to answer that question at least for the new RedOctane
Ignition Pad.
RedOctane is asking $129.95 for their new Ignition
Pad, but if you pre-order
it now, you can get it for $119.95. And considering there are Metal
Pads on the market for around $150.00, the Ignition pad has quite a lot to
live up to for that price. Let's find out if it does.
NOTE: Since the Ignition Pad was in extremely short supply at the time of
this review, I was only able to get one of them to test. Therefore this review
will not cover how well they perform in doubles mode.
Plug & Play:
The Ignition Pad came right out of the box and was ready to be plugged in to
the Playstation (or Playstation 2). It was nice to not have to assemble anything
for a change.
The pad:
If you've ever played on a soft pad before, then you know
they're very thin, and very flimsy. The Ignition Pads were considerably less
flimsy than a normal soft pad because it has a foam mat attached to the bottom
via a zipper. Here is a picture of the pad from the top
and from the bottom. The zipper's only purpose is to
separate the top of the pad from the foam mat, and all the guts (wiring,
sensors, etc...) of the pad are in the top part. I found it a bit strange that
you can't completely separate the top and bottom half of this pad due to the way
the zipper is attached to the hard plastic at the top, but it wasn't really that
big of a deal. That just means if you have two of them, you won't be able to
interchange tops and bottoms of them. This is as far as
the pads will unzip. Similar to some of the soft pads on the market, the
Ignition Pad has lights at the top of the pad that come
on whenever you press a direction or button. If you were to examine just the top
part of the pad, it feels very similar to all the other soft pads on the market
with the exception of the arrows. Most of the pad feels like a big diaper, but
the arrows have a harder, "reinforced" foam underneath them that keeps
the pad from bunching up and also makes it so you can know where you're standing
without having to look down at your feet.
Yes, yes, yes. That's all fine and good, but how does it play?!
So here's the part you've all been waiting for. How does this pad play and
how does it compare to other pads on the market? We'll break this out into the
following categories: Durability, Feel, Quality, Noise, and Arcade Comparison.
- Durability: One of the best things about soft pads is that you can
invite all of your 300 pound friends over (y'know, from your weight watchers
group) and let them go buck wild on them without having to worry if the pads
will live to tell the tale. One huge difference
between the Ignition Pad and almost all of the other soft pads on the market
is that with its attached foam mat and "reinforced foam
technology" on the arrows, the Ignition Pad doesn't bunch up AT ALL
when you're playing (even on carpet). Even with its foam bottom, the
pad does slide a bit when you play, although not nearly as much as other
soft pads do. And if you put it on a hard surface (such as wood), the
sliding is even less. If you want the best experience possible, you might
want to secure the pad from sliding either by taping it down, by using
carpet tape, or by enlisting the help of a friend to keep his foot on it
while you play to make sure it doesn't slide. ;) Soft pads are the most
durable types of pads because they won't ever crack under heavy weight. The
Ignition Pad goes a step beyond that and eliminates the common soft-pad
problem of "bunching up" by having reinforced foam on the arrows
and a foam mat attached to bottom of the pad via a zipper. In
a home dance platform, you just don't get more durable than a soft pad.
- Feel: RedOctane's DDR-accessory product line hasn't
exactly impressed me in the past, so I'll admit I was quite skeptical going
in to this review. I had seen pictures of the pad, I examined it out of the
box, and I said to myself, "Hmmmmm, I dunno about this", but I
figured I'd at least give it the gentleman's chance. And I can honestly say
that I'm glad I did!
- Physical: If you've ever played on the Konami Deluxe pad,
this pad feels very similar. Whereas the Konami Deluxe pad has a thick foam
layer throughout the entire pad, the Ignition Pad has a thinner foam mat
attached to the bottom, and reinforced foam under the arrows (but nowhere
else). Although there's no risk in damaging it, I wouldn't recommend playing
on the Ignition Pad with shoes on because anything that has traction on the
pads will increase the chances of the pad sliding while you play. So I
played in socks. One of the big complaints I have when playing on soft pads
is that if I play on the carpet, the pad bunches up, it slides around, and I
just can't get a feel for where I need to be stepping. But not with this
one. Even when playing on the carpet, the pad doesn't bunch up at all
because it's reinforced in so many different ways. And even though it did
slide around a bit when I played some of the harder songs, it wasn't NEARLY
as much as most of the other soft pads do. So as I do with every soft pad, I
put this pad on a hard surface to minimize the sliding (which, as expected,
worked quite well). The problem with putting a soft
pad on a hard surface is that your feet REALLY start to hurt after playing
for a while. Since the Ignition Pad has a foam mat and reinforced foam
arrows, it doesn't suffer from this nearly as much as a pad without any
padding does. Very nice on the feet.
- The polyphony test: I'll never forget the first soft DDR pads I
bought. They were one of the first Topway pads ever made with 4 arrows
and 4 buttons in the corners. So I was playing along with them, and
during several songs, I would clearly hit an arrow, but I would get a
miss on it. So it turns out that if you were pressing two buttons at
once on the pad, then it wouldn't register a third button. This doesn't
sound so bad since you only have two feet, but it was often the case
that you would step on the right arrow, and your heel would be on the
back corner button (thus having two buttons pressed). If a left arrow
came up and you stepped on it, guess what? No left arrow for you! What
moronic engineer decided to let that by when even the Playstation
controllers doesn't suffer from it is beyond me. Thereafter, I referred
to that problem as the "two-button polyphony issue" (for those
familiar with keyboard synthesizers). Thankfully
the Ignition Pad did not suffer from this problem.
- The "accidental button" test: Another problem that
almost every soft pad has is that buttons will press when you don't mean
for them to. This is normally caused by the pad bunching up and causing
the button to make contact with itself as if you're stepping on it. With
the foam mat and zipper, and the reinforced foam under the arrows, this
doesn't seem to be an issue with the Ignition Pad, and I never once had
a button press accidentally.
- The "quick press" test: This is the test that
determines how well a pad can handle difficult and/or fast songs. The
way most soft pads are designed is that there is some sort of thin
cushion that separates the two parts of a button. When you step on it,
your foot compresses the cushion and presses the top part of the button
down to the bottom part making a connection, and the button registers a
press. Then when you lift your foot up, the cushion decompresses and
returns back to it's normal position. Not exactly rocket science, right?
Well, the problem with most soft pads is that they use a very thin and
soft cushion and when you press an arrow down and then lift your foot
off, it takes a split second for the connection to be broken and for the
cushion to return to it's normal position. The softer and less-springy
the cushion is, the longer it takes for the connection to break when you
lift your foot off of it. Just imagine squeezing a really soft and
fluffy sponge and then squeezing a really hard one. Which returns back
to it's normal state faster? The hard one, of course... And since most
soft pads don't use hard/springy cushions, this can be a problem when
you have to hit the same arrow multiple times very quickly (Paranoia
Eternal Maniac Single on DDR 5th mix is probably the best example of
this). What often happens is you will press the arrow down and get the
step, then you will quickly lift your foot up and press it down again to
get the next step, but since the cushion hasn't had enough time to
expand, the connection won't even be broken and the game will think you
left your foot on the arrow the entire time. The faster you have to hit
the same arrow over and over, the more misses you normally get. Okay,
now that I've gone through that painful explanation, you'll
be happy to know that the Ignition Pad passed this test with flying
colors! Yep, the reinforced foam seems to take care of most of the work
here, and when combined with the foam mat at the bottom, well let's just
say that I never suffered from the pad failing to recognize that I
lifted my foot. This is a HUGE plus for this pad because it allows you
to do just about any song that you could do in the arcade and do it just
as well.
In fact, the first time I tried Paranoia Eternal Maniac Single
on this pad, I was able to combo all the way through those multiple
stomps on the same arrow!
- Quality: Don't worry, I'm not going to drop a bomb here like I did
with the Metal Pads I
reviewed... This is going to be short and sweet. The
quality of these pads are roughly equivalent to the Konami DX pad, and
higher than any other soft pad I've ever played on. The Ignition Pads
get the job done, they have yet to let me down, and they're extremely
consistent. Not only that, but the Konami DX pads come with 3 pieces of foam
that you have to put together, insert into the pad, and then zip it up. The
RedOctane Ignition Pad came in one piece, all zipped up and ready to go.
Right out of the box, onto my floor, and ready to play.
- Noise: Out of all the hard and soft pads I've
played on, the Ignition Pad and the Konami DX pad were the least noisy.
You know how it is, you get on a hard pad and you're clacking so loud that
the neighbors decide to phone the police. Soft pads are considerably better,
but you might as well be jumping around on the floor. The reinforced foam in
the Ignition Pads softens the blow to your floors, to your feet, and to your
neighbors. Unfortunately, you still won't be able to get away with playing
on the second floor of an apartment complex if you have tenants below you,
but if they're not home and you don't want to bother the other surrounding
neighbors, then you should safely be able to bust out an Ignition Pad and
not have to worry. NOTE: If you want to get back at your neighbors for
turning their stereo up too loud all weekend when you were trying to sleep,
then you'll probably want to buy a nice hard plastic pad. They're the
loudest, and therefore the best suited for revenge. But as
my fiancée so eloquently put it after enduring an evening of listening to
people playing on all different types of DDR pads and platforms at our home,
"Dude, those Ignition pads definitely win the no-noise award. That's
for sure." :)
- Arcade Comparison: So you've mastered every song in the
arcade. You can beat all of your friends. But you don't like to play at
home because you're afraid that all that bragging will go down the tubes
when you fail a 9-foot song on a home pad because it's nothing like the
arcade. Well, if it's any consolation, I was able to do pretty much just
as well as I can in the arcade on the Ignition Pad! I put the pad on a
hard surface, I popped in DDR 5th mix, and here's the result of my very
first game on the pad: Song 1
(Ecstasy Maniac
Single) - Full combo with 3 Greats. Damn! That's 2 steps better than
my high score in the arcade!! Song 2
(DXY! Maniac
Single) - All Perfects, 24 Greats, and a Good. Roughly the same as I
would have done in the arcade playing the song cold (And the Good was
clearly due to the pad not registering my step properly - just kidding).
Song 3 (Afronova Primeval Maniac Single) - All
Perfects, 12 Greats, and a Boo. That's actually a little better than I
normally do in the arcade in terms of number of Greats, but the Boo
kills me (I must be slipping in my old age). Here's
the result of the first game. Those of you who know me can tell that
these were played on the pad and not a controller because I didn't full
combo all three songs. ;) Don't get me wrong though, the steps I missed
I clearly missed and it wasn't the fault of the pad at all. I continued
on to play more songs, and do roughly as well as I do in the arcade on
them. I even played my Drop Out edit called Max260 on this pad and...
uh... well... did as well as I could have expected. ;) One
thing that's nice about playing in the arcade is that the arrows are
slightly inset in the metal so you can "feel" where the arrows are
and it prevents you from drifting away from the center of the stage. With
the Ignition Pad's reinforced foam underneath the arrows, you get a similar
feel and I was able to tell exactly where I was standing without ever having
to look down. This is something that you definitely don't get on most
soft pads and it REALLY helps on fast or hard songs where you don't want to
drift away from the center and you can't afford to look down. Something to
note about the Ignition Pad vs. the Konami DX pad: The foam in the Ignition
Pad is not quite as thick as the Konami DX pad and therefore it's not quite
as soft under your feet, but it's darn close. And I personally felt that you
could feel where the arrows were better on the Ignition Pad than you could
on the Konami DX pad because there was a much more noticeable difference
between the thickness of the foam under the arrows and not under the arrows.
Soft pads will never feel exactly like an arcade DDR
stage, but they sure are more comfortable!
Summary:
When I first played on the Konami DX soft pad, I said, "This is the best
soft pad I've ever played on." And then when I heard they were selling for
upwards of $200.00, I laughed and said, "They're great, but they're not
$200.00 great." When I played on the RedOctane Ignition Pad, I was really
surprised at the quality and said, "Wow. This feels a lot like the Konami
DX pad... and it's almost half the price!" I've heard stories of people
flying out to Japan and purchasing a Konami DX pad for the equivalent of $60.00
USD, but I have yet to find any place to purchase them in the states (or online)
for less than $200.00 plus shipping. The Ignition Pad has a foam mat attached to
the bottom of the pad with a zipper that keeps it from sliding around too much,
it has reinforced foam underneath the arrows so you'll always know where you're
standing without having to look down (which is a GREAT feature), the thicker
cushioning makes it easier on your feet than most soft pads, and there aren't
any wiring or quality issues!
Don't get me wrong, no soft pad will ever hold a candle to the Metal
Pads I reviewed in terms of feeling close to the actual arcade stage, but at
least these WORK without having to mod them, there's no weight limit so you
don't ever have to worry about breaking them, and you don't have to assemble
anything when you get them.
I still think that $129.95 ($119.95 if you pre-order
it) is a little steep for any soft pad, but in my informed opinion, the RedOctane
Ignition Pad is definitely the best *soft* pad on the market for the money.
Trust me, I wouldn't say this if I didn't play it and believe it myself. If you
want the best soft pad available, and $200.00 + shipping for the Konami DX pad
is just a little (okay a lot) too expensive for ya, then you're going to want
this pad. It totally kicks a$$.
Thanks for taking the time to read this review. :)
-- GPF Lith --
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Summary |
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Durability
One huge difference
between the Ignition Pad and almost all of the other soft pads on the market
is that with its attached foam mat and "reinforced foam
technology" on the arrows, the Ignition Pad doesn't bunch up AT ALL
when you're playing (even on carpet).
In a home dance platform,
you just don't get more durable than a soft pad. |
10.0 |
|
Feel
The problem with putting a soft
pad on a hard surface is that your feet REALLY start to hurt after playing
for a while. Since the Ignition Pad has a foam mat and reinforced foam
arrows, it doesn't suffer from this nearly as much as a pad without any
padding does. Very nice on the feet.
I never once had
a button press accidentally. |
8.0 |
|
Quality
The quality of these pads are roughly
equivalent to the Konami DX pad, and higher than any other soft
pad I've ever played on. |
9.5 |
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Noise
...as my fiancée so eloquently put it
after enduring an evening of listening to people playing on all
different types of DDR pads and platforms at our home, "Dude,
those Ignition pads definitely win the no-noise award. That's for
sure." :) |
9.5 |
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Arcade Comparison
I was able to do pretty much just as well as I can in the arcade
on the Ignition Pad!
One thing that's nice about
playing in the arcade is that the arrows are slightly inset in the
metal so you can "feel" where the arrows are and it
prevents you from drifting away from the center of the stage. With
the Ignition Pad's reinforced foam underneath the arrows, you get
a similar feel and I was able to tell exactly where I was standing
without ever having to look down.
Soft pads will never feel
exactly like an arcade DDR stage, but they sure are more
comfortable! |
7.5 |
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Overall Recommendation
I still think that $129.95 ($119.95 if
you pre-order
it) is a little steep for any soft pad, but in my informed opinion, the RedOctane
Ignition Pad is definitely the best soft pad on the market for
the money. Trust me, I wouldn't say this if I didn't play it and
believe it myself. If you want the best soft pad available, and
$200.00 + shipping for the Konami DX pad is just a little (okay a
lot) too expensive for you, then you're going to want this pad. It
totally kicks a$$. |
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