Dance Dance Revolution Metal Arcade Dance Platforms

(a review by GPF Lith)

Last update: 3/15/01

 

 

Metal DDR platforms for around $150.00 US. Not too shabby considering many of the hard plastic platfoms sell for over $100.00. But are they worth it? Will they make it so you'll never want to go to the arcades again? Let's find out!

So a friend of mine ordered two of the Dance Dance Revolution Metal Arcade Dance Platforms, and I ordered two of them as well. Between the two of us, I have tested four of these pads (and have assembled two of them myself). Note: These pads claim to work on a PC as well as a Playstation (PSX), but the ones we got didn't come with the necessary cable to hook it up to a PC so this review will only cover using the pads on a PSX or a Playstation2 (PS2).

 

The boxes:

First, let's start with a few pics. Here are the boxes they came in. Pretty schnazzy, eh? Well, those boxes weighed in at around 45lbs each, so remember: lift with your legs, not your back!

 

Some assembly required:

The platforms came in 9 metal squares (4 of them had plexiglass arrows taped to them) with a whole bunch of screws and metal connector pieces. There were instructions on how to assemble them, but there wasn't really much you could do wrong aside from not figuring out how the 9 pieces latched on together, but you'd have to be complete moron for that. (Shut up, Casey - it was late and I was tired) Here are a few pics of a fully assembled platform: Top | Bottom | Two Pads.

 

The guts (arrows):

These pads basically consist of a bunch of metal, four arrow platforms, and a circuit board. You've seen the metal, and here are a couple of pics of the arrow platforms: Front | Back. If you look at those two pictures, you will see that each arrow is basically one giant contact sheet. That white stuff you see around the edge is just standard foam like you could buy at the grocery store, and the three strips are just thin sheets of foil or some other material that conducts electricity. When you press the arrow down, the plexiglass bends down and the strips of metal touch the contact sheet and it completes the signal. One of the cool thing about these pads is that if you're the type of person who likes to take things apart and try to improve them, the design allows you to do that very easily.

 

The guts (the circuit board):

If you look at the bottom of the pad, you will see that each arrow has an RCA connector coming out of it that goes into the circuit board and eventually out to the PSX (or PS2). So now that you've seen everything else, it's time to look into what possibly could be the worst wiring I have *ever* seen on a professionally made retail product (and I'll use the term "professionally" quite loosely because of this). Let's take a look at the circuit board, shall we? Here's a pic of the circuit board. Upon opening up the housing for the circuit board, a couple of intriguing questions come to mind:
1) Why is there white dual-sided sticky foam (with only the one side peeled off) stuck to the board?
2) Why is there a strip of masking tape stuck to the board just underneath the RCA jacks?
3) Why are there open, non-protected wires running horizontally through the housing?
4) And most importantly, what were the makers of this platform smoking when they decided to ship it like this?
Unfortunately, I can't give definite answers to these, but I'll do my best. The circuit board is held in place by some more dual-sided sticky foam. (I guess they must have stumbled onto a big sticky foam sale when they were pricing the parts for these platforms) Upon removing the sticky-foam and the masking tape, we're left with an even more gruesome picture. Beneath the masking tape are a bunch of leads that have been scratched off and wires were soldered to them. I guess the tape was put there to keep them from touching the RCA jacks that are millimeters above. Underneath the sticky-foam was the circuit board. Nothing special there, I'm guessing that the sticky-foam was stuck on there to keep the connections away from the PURE METAL that makes up the housing for the circuit board. (Kudos to the designers for deciding to house an open circuit board in complete metal) As for the horizontal non-protected wires running through the housing, all I can think of is that either they completely ran out of budget when they got to the wiring, or the designer was actually an idiot savant whose one specialty happened to be making arrows for dancing games.

 

How does it play?

Okay, enough shanking the wiring, let's get into the good stuff and see how it plays! I've broken this out into a few categories: Durability, Feel (singles), Feel (doubles), and Quality. (Be sure to read the quality section before you get too excited about these)

 

A solution to the quality issue:

For those of you who are inclined, there does exist a solution to the quality issues mentioned above. The solution involves ditching the circuit board that came with the platforms entirely, gutting a PSX or PS2 controller (a PSX controller would be cheaper and easier), and wiring your arrows and buttons through that instead. I'm going to do this within the next few weeks, and if enough people are interested, I can post a follow-up tutorial on how to mod these pads to get around the quality issues. If you are interested, just send an e-mail to kevin@ddrseattle.com and let me know.

Solution update (3/15/01):

I happened to have an old gutted PSX controller that I tested out and it still worked. So i hacked in a quick mod to the pad where I swapped out the circuit board with the PSX controller and wired it up. And... IT SUFFERED FROM THE SAME PROBLEMS! I could hardly believe it. So after a few more diagnostic measures, it looks like the problem lies somewhere in the RCA connectors or the Start/Select/X/O buttons combined with the metal housing (like how close they are to each other or to the metal). Something is causing bad signals to get sent to the PSX, and it's really wierd. I'm certain that this problem can be fixed, but it looks like the necessary mod is going to be a bit more involved than just swapping out the circuit board. I'll update this with more info as soon as I have it.

 

Summary:

To sum up, these are the best commercial platforms on the market, and at the same time they're also among the worst commercial platforms on the market. The biggest challenge in making a DDR platform is getting the feel of the arrows, and they TOTALLY NAILED IT! The arrows feel better than any home pad or platform I've ever tried. Beyond that, the only thing that's left is to wire it up decently and a high-school electrical engineering student should be able to do that. It's a shame that they took such an incredible piece of work and then threw it all away with ridiculously poor wiring and what seems to be a bad circuit board. If you're a modder and you have the wherewithal to perform the necessary modifications to get these platforms to work properly, then these pads are definitely worth buying. But for the general DDR public, and for those who don't care to (or can't) spend the time and money required to get these platforms to work the way you'd expect, you'd be taking a big risk in buying these, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you happen to have $150 + shipping burning a hole in your pocket.

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this review. :)

-- GPF Lith --

 

Summary

Durability
These platforms are easily more durable than any other platform on the market. Period.

9.5

Feel (singles)
I can easily say beyond a shadow of a doubt that these platforms are as close to feel of the arcade stage as you can get without building your own custom platform.

9.5

Feel (doubles)
Once you deal with the spacing issue, again, the feel is the closest thing to the feel of the arcade stage you can get without building your own custom platform.

9.0

Quality
It's a shame that they took such an incredible piece of work and then threw it all away with ridiculously poor wiring and what seems to be a bad circuit board.

Added 3/14/02: And I can't believe they completely forgot to thread the screw holes on a panel on one of these. The quality of these platforms is unacceptable for a retail product in my opinion.

1.0

Overall Recommendation
If you're a modder and you have the wherewithal to perform the necessary modifications to get these platforms to work properly, then these pads are definitely worth buying. But for the general DDR public, and for those who don't care to (or can't) spend the time and money required to get these platforms to work the way you'd expect, you'd be taking a big risk in buying these, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you happen to have $150 + shipping burning a hole in your pocket.

 

 

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